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		<title>Comment on Encouragement from God and Others by Jason Oliver</title>
		<link>http://gayandevangelical.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/encouragement-from-god-and-others/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Oliver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful encouragement, Dave. I&#039;ve been getting the same message here from fellow seminarians and friends. It gives me encouragement to know that God has not forgotten us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful encouragement, Dave. I&#8217;ve been getting the same message here from fellow seminarians and friends. It gives me encouragement to know that God has not forgotten us!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did God Create Me This Way? by Suzanne</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, Dave, from another mom of a gay son. 
I recently stumbled onto this blog, and having read several of your articles I have been wonderfully edified, blessed and encouraged. Thank you too, Marcus, for your generous responses to others in here, which also have been so helpful to read.  

I&#039;ll *try* not to write a blog post of my own here..but want to share just a bit; my son&#039;s coming out, as it were, (rather &quot;accidental&quot;) ended up being the catalyst for my own salvation, and later my husband&#039;s.
 
In those first few months I began sharing bible passages and such with him, naively (!) thinking this would bring him back to his &quot;Christian&quot; upbringing and &quot;change his mind&quot; about being gay (though we, the parents, were false converts).  It soon became obvious that wasn&#039;t going to work because God, &lt;i&gt;whoever that is&lt;/i&gt;, was not even an issue for him.   He just didn&#039;t believe in our God anymore. He&#039;d heard gospel teaching since a very young age (mainly through years of Christian school) and the Gospel has been clearly explained to him since coming-out but he&#039;s rejected it.  He  soon brought up psychology and the findings of the APA and &quot;arguments&quot; of that nature with me, patiently continuing the discussion and debate over several months until finally, as I wasn&#039;t giving in, his resentment began to bleed through louder and clearer.  I had to leave the issue alone with him or lose the relationship we had.   

Again,  6 years later and looking back I was ridiculously naive both in theology and about homosexuality/s in general,  and he was amazingly patient and respectful (although I likely infuriated him at times).  God grace abounded, I was saved from myself (so to speak) and our relationship is &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; today.

All that to say, in everything  God has been so gracious to teach and show me over the yeras in His word and excellent teachers, there were/are elements to my son&#039;s being gay and to homosexuality in general and God&#039;s sovereignty in it all that I really struggled to understand.   Reading this blog has been a huge huge blessing and great help in clarifying so much of those things..Thank you!

Brothers, may you continue the fight abounding in the Spirit all the more in strength and perseverance, encouraged in the hope going always before you until the day you stand before the One who knows your struggle more than even yourself, and says to you  &quot;well done faithful servant&quot;.

~Suzanne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Dave, from another mom of a gay son.<br />
I recently stumbled onto this blog, and having read several of your articles I have been wonderfully edified, blessed and encouraged. Thank you too, Marcus, for your generous responses to others in here, which also have been so helpful to read.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll *try* not to write a blog post of my own here..but want to share just a bit; my son&#8217;s coming out, as it were, (rather &#8220;accidental&#8221;) ended up being the catalyst for my own salvation, and later my husband&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In those first few months I began sharing bible passages and such with him, naively (!) thinking this would bring him back to his &#8220;Christian&#8221; upbringing and &#8220;change his mind&#8221; about being gay (though we, the parents, were false converts).  It soon became obvious that wasn&#8217;t going to work because God, <i>whoever that is</i>, was not even an issue for him.   He just didn&#8217;t believe in our God anymore. He&#8217;d heard gospel teaching since a very young age (mainly through years of Christian school) and the Gospel has been clearly explained to him since coming-out but he&#8217;s rejected it.  He  soon brought up psychology and the findings of the APA and &#8220;arguments&#8221; of that nature with me, patiently continuing the discussion and debate over several months until finally, as I wasn&#8217;t giving in, his resentment began to bleed through louder and clearer.  I had to leave the issue alone with him or lose the relationship we had.   </p>
<p>Again,  6 years later and looking back I was ridiculously naive both in theology and about homosexuality/s in general,  and he was amazingly patient and respectful (although I likely infuriated him at times).  God grace abounded, I was saved from myself (so to speak) and our relationship is <i>good</i> today.</p>
<p>All that to say, in everything  God has been so gracious to teach and show me over the yeras in His word and excellent teachers, there were/are elements to my son&#8217;s being gay and to homosexuality in general and God&#8217;s sovereignty in it all that I really struggled to understand.   Reading this blog has been a huge huge blessing and great help in clarifying so much of those things..Thank you!</p>
<p>Brothers, may you continue the fight abounding in the Spirit all the more in strength and perseverance, encouraged in the hope going always before you until the day you stand before the One who knows your struggle more than even yourself, and says to you  &#8220;well done faithful servant&#8221;.</p>
<p>~Suzanne</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcoming by icarusalwaysdaemon</title>
		<link>http://gayandevangelical.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/welcoming/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icarusalwaysdaemon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, sure wish you would write something once and again. That is all.

daemon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, sure wish you would write something once and again. That is all.</p>
<p>daemon</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcoming by Larry Who</title>
		<link>http://gayandevangelical.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/welcoming/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Who]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great message. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great message. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcoming by GayTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GayTaylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then again, perhaps the woman who loves women will be the one who is reaching out in love and compassion by deigning/daring to eat with evangelical Christians. When I was a practicing evangelical I did my part to help earn my faith community a reputation for throwing those deemed less worthy/holy/valuable aside. Quick as a wink. I could pass judgment with the best of &#039;em. Oy vey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, perhaps the woman who loves women will be the one who is reaching out in love and compassion by deigning/daring to eat with evangelical Christians. When I was a practicing evangelical I did my part to help earn my faith community a reputation for throwing those deemed less worthy/holy/valuable aside. Quick as a wink. I could pass judgment with the best of &#8216;em. Oy vey.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcoming by Christy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome! You&#039;ve managed to put into words what I&#039;ve been trying to wrap my head around for weeks with all this same-sex marriage stuff in the news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! You&#8217;ve managed to put into words what I&#8217;ve been trying to wrap my head around for weeks with all this same-sex marriage stuff in the news.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Changing of the Weather by Don Hartness</title>
		<link>http://gayandevangelical.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/the-changing-of-the-weather/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Hartness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently got a job delivering freight over long distances (over 300 miles round-trip). Needless to say, I have a lot of time each day where I&#039;m doing nothing but driving. out in the barren wilderness of Wyoming. No, I don&#039;t have an iPod, and don&#039;t make me laugh with the suggestion of listening to the radio. 

What did I have? A whole lot of grief. And no idea what to do with it.

Now, I realize that this job (and the last one like it many years ago) were blessings. In the privacy of the truck cab, I ranted, I cursed, I questioned, I cried, I moaned, and basically got it all out before Him. I guess you could call it prayer, although there are few who pray like that. And although I didn&#039;t have a plan of attack, it obviously helped. Over the last week, I&#039;ve noticed that the ranting and raving has receded considerably. I have new direction, new energy, new conviction and, most of all, a new peace. For the first time, I am experiencing true joy in the midst of my troubles.

I know it&#039;s hard with school, but maybe you need to find some time and just go off somewhere to rant and rave? You know He&#039;s good for it. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently got a job delivering freight over long distances (over 300 miles round-trip). Needless to say, I have a lot of time each day where I&#8217;m doing nothing but driving. out in the barren wilderness of Wyoming. No, I don&#8217;t have an iPod, and don&#8217;t make me laugh with the suggestion of listening to the radio. </p>
<p>What did I have? A whole lot of grief. And no idea what to do with it.</p>
<p>Now, I realize that this job (and the last one like it many years ago) were blessings. In the privacy of the truck cab, I ranted, I cursed, I questioned, I cried, I moaned, and basically got it all out before Him. I guess you could call it prayer, although there are few who pray like that. And although I didn&#8217;t have a plan of attack, it obviously helped. Over the last week, I&#8217;ve noticed that the ranting and raving has receded considerably. I have new direction, new energy, new conviction and, most of all, a new peace. For the first time, I am experiencing true joy in the midst of my troubles.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s hard with school, but maybe you need to find some time and just go off somewhere to rant and rave? You know He&#8217;s good for it. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;You&#8217;ll Make a Good Pastor.&#8221; by Don Hartness</title>
		<link>http://gayandevangelical.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/youll-make-a-good-pastor/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Hartness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m there now. 

I think drudgery brews these emotions. We know we are on the right path, but it&#039;s hard work, with no fanfare or pom-poms waved in our honor, and especially no tangible evidence of effectual work in other people&#039;s lives. I find these periods of time to be the most dangerous, as they are the moments when I am most likely to buck the bit and strike off in a different direction, simply because &quot;I&#039;m not feeling it&quot;.

Your post reminded me to stay the course, even though you didn&#039;t say anything about this. And in this, you blessed my life in ways you&#039;ll never know. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m there now. </p>
<p>I think drudgery brews these emotions. We know we are on the right path, but it&#8217;s hard work, with no fanfare or pom-poms waved in our honor, and especially no tangible evidence of effectual work in other people&#8217;s lives. I find these periods of time to be the most dangerous, as they are the moments when I am most likely to buck the bit and strike off in a different direction, simply because &#8220;I&#8217;m not feeling it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your post reminded me to stay the course, even though you didn&#8217;t say anything about this. And in this, you blessed my life in ways you&#8217;ll never know. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on And Death Shall Have No Dominion by Bobby (@louisvillebobby)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby (@louisvillebobby)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Death shall have no dominion&quot; Amen. Thanks for sharing. So glad I stumbled upon your website via Twitter. Very encouraging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Death shall have no dominion&#8221; Amen. Thanks for sharing. So glad I stumbled upon your website via Twitter. Very encouraging.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So Why the Blog Title? by Denzil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denzil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings brother, and thanks for your courage and honesty. I hope and pray that the tide is turning to greater inclusion of homosexual Christians in evangelical churches. Have you followed this great news?
http://denziljournalist.com/2013/01/20/steve-chalke-and-homosexuality/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings brother, and thanks for your courage and honesty. I hope and pray that the tide is turning to greater inclusion of homosexual Christians in evangelical churches. Have you followed this great news?<br />
<a href="http://denziljournalist.com/2013/01/20/steve-chalke-and-homosexuality/" rel="nofollow">http://denziljournalist.com/2013/01/20/steve-chalke-and-homosexuality/</a></p>
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